Virgin Mary converts Harvard Professor Part 3 (Jewish Convert to Catholic)

By | September 11, 2019


Since we want to be right on time without further ado Roy Schumann welcome Roy Hi and thanks again for coming again tonight and as I mentioned yesterday Yesterday obviously was centered on my witness testimony today will Center on the role of Judaism in salvation history As the subtitle of my first book was the role of salvation in Judaism the role of Judaism in salvation history from Abraham to the second coming in other words from the very beginning to the very end and then Tomorrow night’s a talk will Center on the experience first of all on the miraculous conversion Circumstances of other Jews who have entered the Catholic Church and also on their perspectives on what it means to be Catholic as I shared my perspectives last night, but before I begin Tonight’s talk proper about the role of Judaism in Salvation history I want to tie up a couple of things from last night’s talk. Maybe only one thing from last night’s talk I mentioned that one of the questions that I had asked the Blessed Virgin Mary in my experience of her was what title she liked best for herself and Her response was I am the beloved daughter of the father? mother of the son and spouse of the Spirit now We very frequently think of the Blessed Virgin Mary’s role as the mother of Jesus We know as Catholics we should know as Catholics that she is also the media tricks of all graces That’s a another talk, but it’s actually essentially been dogmatically established Although it hasn’t been pronounced formally as a dogma that the Blessed Virgin Mary is the media tricks of all graces in other words that all of the graces that Jesus won for mankind, he distributes to mankind through the hands of Mary and We think of her having this role by virtue of her being the mother of God the mother of Jesus But we can also think of her having that role by virtue of her being the spouse of the holy spirit So I just wanted to kind of flesh that out just a tiny bit first of all to defend that statement that all of the graces that God Chooses to give mankind he gives through the hands of the Blessed Virgin Mary I’ll just read a couple of very short quotes from some Saints and Pope’s and sainted popes Saint Bernard of Clairvaux Wrote God has willed that we should have nothing which does not pass through the hands of Mary Pope Pius the 9th wrote for God has committed to Mary the Treasury of all good things In order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope every grace in all salvation Pope Leo the 13th quote nothing of all of the immense treasury of every grace which the Lord accumulated is Imparted to us except through Mary and there are dozens and dozens and dozens of these Definitive flat statements in papal documents of prompt Pope’s and from saints saying that Mary is essentially the mediator of all grace now What’s this have to do with her being the spouse of the Holy Spirit? I would argue that it has everything to do with her being the spouse of the Holy Spirit when Mary conceived Jesus in her womb through being overshadowed by the Holy Spirit that was an act of spousal Union that’s where conceptions come from is obviously the spousal union between the father and the mother when Mary entered into that spousal union with the Holy Spirit and excuse me for saying this It wasn’t a one-night stand it was a true spousal union It was the beginning of an eternal spousal union between the third person of the Most Holy Trinity and the Blessed Virgin Mary According to Jewish law and you actually see this in the Old Testament marriage takes place not because of any sacramental act You know said over the bride and the groom not because of anything any rabbi does the marriage takes place through the spousal Union itself and you see this for instance when? Isaac married, Rebecca It was their spousal union which produced the marriage that’s what produces marriage under tuition a marriage was produced between the third person of the Most Holy Trinity and Mary when when The Holy Spirit overshadowed her and conceived Jesus in her womb now spousal unions are Indus all Yubel there are eternal Or that in our case at least until death and we know some of the properties of the spousal Union, which is that Everything that one spouse owns is also home by the other. We’re basically the spouses are together all the time They’re two together the two become one flesh the saint who wrote most beautifully about Mary as a spouse if Oh, Holy Spirit was st. Maximilian Kolbe So I’ll just wrap this part up by reading some quotes from st Maximilian Kolbe about it the third person of the Blessed Trinity never took flesh and still our human word spouse is far too weak to express the reality of the relationship between the Immaculata and the Holy Spirit we can affirm that she is in a certain sense the Incarnation in quotes of the Holy Spirit Mary is united to the Holy Spirit so closely that we really cannot grasp this Union But we can at least say that the Holy Spirit and Mary are two persons who live in such intimate union That they have but one soul life The Holy Spirit is in Mary after the fashion one might say in which the second person of the Blessed Trinity the Word Made flesh is in his humanity. There is of course this difference in Jesus There are two natures human and divine but one single person. Who is God Mary’s nature and person are totally distinct from the nature and person of the Holy Spirit still their union is so Inexpressible and so perfect that the Holy Spirit acts only by the Immaculata his spouse this is why she is the media tricks of all graces given by the Holy Spirit, so You see basically what Maximilian Kolbe is saying and what is actually obvious I think if one stops to think about it, is that the ultimate Union between divinity and humanity took place in Jesus where it’s called the hypostatic union but where Jesus had the full human nature the full divine nature in one in a single person The union between the holy spirit and the Blessed Virgin Mary is not the same kind of union There’s still two persons but in in the case of the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Holy Spirit the human nature and the divine nature are United through the spousal union between the person of Mary and the person of the Holy Spirit So it’s second only to Jesus in a in a union between divinity and humanity. Does that make sense? I don’t want to sound heretical and if I say this too fast and if I say this sloppily and maybe it may sound like I’m saying it’s the same kind of Union as it is in Jesus. That’s not true. I’m not saying that at all I’m just saying that a second only to the Union in Jesus and it’s unique It’s not like anything in any other human creature It’s it’s nothing that’s never been done anywhere else except in the Blessed Virgin Mary and this is in fact why all of the graces that flow to mankind which flow through the Holy Spirit flow through Mary who is his human spouse that makes sense and I of course I didn’t know this at the time but looking back on Mary calling herself The beloved daughter of the father mother the son and the spouse of the Spirit I just wanted to flesh out just how important that is that she is the spouse of the Spirit, so anyway, that was just kind of finishing that thought from last night and I’ll go on to tonight’s talk proper, which is about the role of Judaism in Salvation history Now the story of the role of Judaism in Salvation history actually starts at the very beginning It starts at the beginning of the creation of mankind. I talked a little bit last night about how I don’t consider myself convert at all because Judaism and Catholicism are actually two phases of one in some sense one in the same relationship between God and man which was intended from the beginning for all of mankind and There was a preparatory stage which was Judaism. So I’ll just kind of start with that So that story begins at the very beginning when God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden He created man to live in a state of uninterrupted intimacy with God and bliss no suffering No death, no work and so forth from his creation for all eternity When man doesn’t show sin when when Adam and Eve fell that initial exalted privilege relationship between man and God? Was shattered and man fell but at that very moment God knew that not only would he restore man to that original exalted state at some point in the future but he would actually raise him to an infinitely higher state through the Incarnation of the second person of the Most Holy Trinity as a man at a future point in time, right? So God knew this from the very moment of Adam’s fall now if the second person the Most Holy Trinity was going to incarnate as a man at a future point in time it would of course be in a particular place in the world among a particular people at a particular point in time and even in the womb of a particular virgin And of course that people would have to be prepared They would have to be first of all separated out from all of the rest of humanity for almost 2,000 years So that they could become the recipients of a tremendous amount of divine revelation to prepare them for this task They would have to be first of all taught about the one true Uncreated creator God they would have to be taught about the creation of man The fall of man the seriousness of sin the need for redemption. They would have to be taught about the future coming of Redeemer They would have to be given enough divine Revelation to be able to identify the Redeemer when he came they would have to be taught enough theology to understand what was happening And to be able to propagate the new religion to the four corners of the earth after it happened They would have to be raised up to a level of at least moral behavior so that the Incarnation of God as one of them one in itself be a sacrilege and they would have to if you excuse the expression breed they would have to over the generations produce a virgin of such purity and nobility that she could give her flesh and blood to be the flesh and blood of the god man when he came and that’s what the Jewish people were they were the people chosen one could say at Random from all of the people wandering the face of the earth for this task for this role Which is without doubt the most Most honored role ever given to a single ethnic people to very literally bring salvation to all of mankind through the incarnation of God as one of them Writes only logical now one can one can ask why on earth did God choose the Jews for this task? And there are at least three answers there’s a famous quote that’s attributed a lot of different people how odd of God to choose the Jews and It’s undoubtedly true. And why did God choose the Jews? they’ll at least three answer that question one is He had to choose somebody and whoever he chose we’d be shaking our heads today and say why on earth. Did he ever choose them? Another reason we know particularly well as Catholics Which is that God always chooses the most worthless and insignificant for his special tasks as special honors Just so that it’s obvious to everybody that that this honor wasn’t anything they earned or deserved or because they are special but is simply a sovereign act of the the grace of God we know this as Catholics is all over in revelation st. Bernadette of Lourdes who received the of course the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary at Lourdes at one point said the Blessed Virgin chose me because I was the most ignorant of all creatures and When Jesus appeared to Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque in the Sacred Heart apparitions, and of course This is the parish of the Sacred Heart at one point Margaret Mary Alacoque asked Jesus. Why me? Why did you choose me for this honor and jesus answered? That’s very simple. If I could have found anyone else more worthless and insignificant than you. I would have chosen her instead and in fact the reason the fact that this is the reason why God chose the Jews is explicit in the Old Testament in Ezekiel chapter 16 God says directly this is why he chose the Jews he compares the Jews to an infant that was considered So worthless that it was discarded after birth without even being washed off of its afterbirth And God for no good reason picked up this infant and raised it up for this honor. I’ll read some of the passage That says the Lord got this is a Ezekiel chapter 16. Thus says the Lord God to Jerusalem Your father was an amirite and your mother was a hid ID and as for your birth on the day you were born your navel String was not cut nor were you washed with water to cleanse you nor rubbed with salt nor swath with bands? No, I pitied you But you were cast out on the open field on the day that you were born And when I passed you by and saw you weltering in your blood I said to you in your blood live and And I bathed you with water and washed off your blood from you and anointed with you with oil I clothed you with embroidered cloth Shod you with leather swathed you in fine linen and covered you with silk I put a ring on your nose and earrings in your ears and a beautiful crown upon your head Thus you were decked with gold and silver and your Raymond was of linen you ate fine flour and honey in the oil you grew exceedingly beautiful and came to regal state And your renown went forth among the nations because of your beauty for it was perfect through the splendor Which I had bestowed upon you says the Lord God so he’s answering the question explicitly the Jews were so I mean it was precisely because the Jews were so worthless and insignificant that he chose them for this honor Now there is a third answer though which is the the Jewish chauvinist answer which is a positive reason why God chose the Jews and that is Reflected in the story of Abraham’s sacrifice of Isaac which was the beginning of the Jewish people I think you all know that that Abraham is the father of the Jews He was the first Jew essentially I think you know the story is it’s recounted in Genesis 22 But there are a couple of reasons why I’ll tell this now it’ll become apparent So the story is that Abraham was a pagan among pagans he was born in the land of the Chaldeans in the land of or God came to him and called him and said leave your land Go to where I tell you and I will make the father of a great nation So Abraham left the Calvillo with his wife Sarah and kept waiting and waiting and waiting for this child of the promised God was going to give them to make Abraham the father of a great nation. Well Abraham and Sarah were infertile They she could not conceive they didn’t have any children and Abraham waited and waited and waited at one point he gave up waiting That’s another story and he had Ishmael And we’re still suffering from but that’s another story And then finally when Abraham was about a hundred years old and Sarah was in her eighties and long past childbearing God miraculously gave them the son of promise which was Isaac and as soon as this boy grew up to Adolescence probably about twelve or thirteen God turned around and said now that I’ve finally given you the child the son of promise Have you’ve waited all your life for I want you to sacrifice to him meet him to me and without a moment’s hesitation Abraham agreed and now I’ll turn to the passage from Genesis 22 and And read this part of the story after these things. God tested Abraham and said to him Abraham Abraham Abraham replied Here I am God said take your son your only beloved son Isaac whom you love and go To the land of Moriah and offer him there as a burnt offering upon one of the mountains of which I shall tell you So Abraham rose early in the morning and took his son Isaac and went to the place. God had told him and Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering and laid it on the shoulders of Isaac his son and Took in his hand the fire in the knife and they both went up together up the mountain and Abraham said to his father Excuse me. Isaac said to his father Abraham. I see the fire in the wood. But where is the lamb for a burnt offering? Abraham replied God Himself will provide the lamb for the sacrifice my son When they came to the place God had told him Abraham built an altar there laid the wood in order and bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar on the wood Then Abraham put forth his hand and took the knife to slay his son but the angel of the Lord called him from heaven and said Abraham Abraham Abraham replied Here I am The angel said do not lay your hand on the lab or do anything to him for now. I know that you fear God seeing you have not withheld your son your only son from me and Abraham lifted up his eyes and saw a ram caught in a thicket by its horns and Abraham Went and took the RAM and offered up as a burnt offering instead of his son. So Abraham called the name of that place the Lord will provide as it is said to this day on the Mount of the Lord it shall be provided and the angel of Lord called Abraham a second time from heaven and said Because you have done this and have not withheld your son your only son I will indeed bless you and I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven and the sand on the seashore and In your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed because you have obeyed my voice that That statement by the angel through your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed has always always seen in Jewish theology is still today seen as Jewish li all in the Jewish theology as The promise to send the Messiah through the seed of Abraham That is what it means when God said in your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed That was the promise to send Jesus the Messiah through the seed of Abraham Now that mountain where Abraham took his son Isaac to be sacrificed in the days of the Old Testament is called Mount Moriah 2,000 years later in the days of Jesus. It had a different name It was called Mount Calvary If you go to Jerusalem, you can see the rock on which Abraham bound Isaac It’s inside the Dome of the rock on the top of the Temple Mount You can walk about 500 yards down the mountain ridge and come to another spot on the same mountain ridge which is the Church of the Holy Sepulchre where Jesus was crucified as Abraham took his only beloved son Laid the wood for his sacrifice on his shoulders and led him up the mountain as a sacrifice to God G God took his only beloved son you can say Jesus laid the wood for his sacrifice on his shoulders the cross took him up the very same mountain as Abraham it says bound Isaac his son on the wood god bound Jesus his son nailed him to the wood the cross and Sacrifice him in that very same place when Isaac asked his father. Where’s the lamb for the sacrifice? And Abraham answered the Lord Himself will provide the lamb for the sacrifice my son He was speaking prophetically far more deeply than he could ever realize because God Himself did provide the true lamb for the sacrifice the lamb for the redemption of the sins of all of mankind in that very same place when he when he Provided the true Lamb of sacrifice Jesus on Calvary in that very same place When it says in this passage a couple of times you might have noticed As it is said to this day on the Mount of the Lord it shall be provided So Abraham called the name of that place the Lord will provide because all of this Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac There was all a picture in advance of the true sacrifice for the redemption of mankind when the Lord would provide The lamb for the sacrifice in that very same place that ram which was caught By his horn in the thicket and offered as a temporary substitute for Well, it was a substitute for Abraham’s sacrifice of Isaac was a placeholder for the true Lamb of sacrifice Jesus from that point on every Jewish sacrificial lamb Which was sacrifice was? simultaneously pointing back in time to Abraham’s sacrifice of Isaac and Ford in time – the true Lamb of Sacrifice Jesus who would be sacrificed in that very same place when Jews blow the shofar on their feast days I don’t know if you’ve ever heard that you know that they blow her own ram’s horn on the new moon and on the feast days, I happen To have one. Here’s a little show-and-tell This is what they say what they do Well, I’ll lose my job as a rabbi, but that’s okay I’ve lost long ago anyway When the Jews blow the ram’s horn on their feast days explicitly according to Jewish theology they are reminding God of Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac and Reminding God of his promise to send the Messiah in reciprocation for Abraham’s fidelity to God so when they blow the shofar in Jewish theology what they are saying is do you remember when our father Abraham was so loyal to you that he Sacrificed Isaac and you promised to send the Messiah. We’ve been waiting for a thousand years. Where is he already? That’s the meaning in Jewish theology of the blowing of the shofar so you can see maybe now why I I told this by the way, this is also The cover of salvation is from the Jews is actually a picture of Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac Because the whole story of Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac is is the arch typical illustration of how It’s called typology, but how everything in Judaism was a picture in advance a foreshadowing of its fulfillment in the Catholic Church So Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice Isaac was this beautiful and exact picture in advance of what was truly coming for the redemption of mankind Which was the sacrifice of Jesus on Calvary. Do you see did you see by what I mean? I and I I mean I Could obviously talk a lot more about this But when you look into it, this is actually the reason why Jesus had to be sacrificed on Passover that’s a sort of another story but Everything in Judaism takes on that the full illumination of its meaning and its meaning in Salvation history when one sees it as a Typological foreshadowing of the fulfillment in Christianity. I’ll actually Very quickly tell what I wasn’t going to tell but anyway and that the the arch typical Illustration of that is the exodus from Egypt you all know the story of the exodus from Egypt, right? The Jews were slaves of the Pharaoh in Egypt God raised up Moses Moses went to Pharaoh and God Pharaoh to allow the Jews to leave They’ve they fled Egypt but then Moses said the Pharaoh sent the army after them They crossed through the waters of the Red Sea the Pharaoh’s army was drowned in the Red Sea They went through they wandered in the desert for forty years and eventually made it to the promised land from the very earliest of the church fathers the whole story of the Jews exodus from Egypt was seen as a prophetic foreshadowing of our true Redemption Through Christ and in in Jewish theology, by the way The entire story of the exodus from Egypt is seen as a messianic prophecy And that’s even again today within totally kosher Judaism the story that the Church Fathers told is the following the Jews Slavery to the Pharaoh in Egypt was a picture of mankind slavery under the power of Satan the Jews Fleeing from under the power of Satan they were they were They were freed from the power of Pharaoh by passing through the waters of the Red Sea That was a picture of the Christian being freed from the power of sin by passing through the waters of baptism The Jews wandered through the desert for 40 years on their way to the promised land. That’s the picture of the Christian wandering So to speak through the desert of this life on the way to the true Promised Land, which is the heavenly Jerusalem But the Jews needed something to sustain themselves through those forty years in the desert. What was it? It was manna the miraculous bread from heaven, which was given to them Miraculously to sustain them in the wandering through the desert for forty years Which is a picture in advance of the Eucharist the true miraculous bread from heaven Which is given to the Christian to sustain them in their wandering through the desert of this life to the true promised land which is heaven and this Equation between the Eucharist and the manna given to the Jews in desert was given was made Explicitly by none other than Jesus himself. I think you all know this in John 6. I May have I think I have the quote there here somewhere Jesus says I am the bread of life your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, but they died I am The Living bread which came down from heaven if anyone eats of this bread He will live forever and the bread which I shall give you for the life of the world is my flesh I mean how much more explicit then can you get them that so that’s just another illustration of? this role of Judaism in Salvation history and it’s also a reason by the way for reading the Old Testament and Identifying understanding, what was going on with the Jews is is actually all a typological foreshadowing of the fulfillment of salvation history through Christ and the Catholic Church Okay, okay and I Won’t go on but the culmination of this is why Jesus had to be sacrificed on Passover But you’ll have to invite me back to do a Passover Seder and during lanta to get the rest of that story because I want to now go back to kind of the mainstream of What I was going to talk about tonight the role of Judaism in Salvation history Leading up to the first coming of Christ is kind of obvious But there is a great mystery to the role of salvation history in between the first and second comings of Christ That’s what I want to spend the rest of the time this evening talking about so One can say that’s given that the Jews were chosen for the most honoured role ever given to any ethnic group To literally bring salvation to all of mankind through the incarnation of God as man What a shame that they blew it and they didn’t recognize Jesus when he came But it doesn’t take much of a second look to realize the Jews Can’t be considered to have blown it because they were chosen to bring about the Incarnation and the Incarnation came about They were chosen to spread the gospel to the four corners of the earth And the for the gospel has been spread to the four corners of the earth there would hardly be two billion Christians in the world of which over 1 billion Catholics if the Jews had failed in their task they obviously Succeeded in the task. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have the Catholic Church, and we wouldn’t have Christianity But there is a mystery to the Jews failure to recognize Christ when he came Which I will kind of come back to in a moment That’s one aspect of the mystery of the role of Judaism in between the first and the second coming of Christ There’s we know a number of things about the role of Judaism in between the second the first and second coming of Christ We know things about it from Sacred Scripture. We know things about it from Catholic dogma we actually now know things about it from recent statements of the Pope’s which I’ll give a couple and we We know something about it from history itself. So I’ll talk a little bit about those those four things first of all from Catholic dogma paragraph 674 of the new catechism of the Catholic Church reads quote the glorious Messiah’s coming Is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by all Israel This is a statement of a Catholic doctrine which has been held from the days of the Church Fathers That the second coming won’t happen until there is a widespread Wholesale if you excuse the pun conversion of the Jews which is what’s reflected in this statement in the Catechism elders repeat that the glorious cut the glorious Messiah’s coming in other words the second coming become the jesus’ returning glory is Suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by all israel in other words Jesus can’t come again until there is a widespread conversion of the Jews. So that’s one mysterious role We know that Jews and Judaism still have to play in bringing about the second coming the This has been underlined and I will just actually read a couple of these approach just because they’re fun if I have them here And it may or may not and if I don’t apologize Here this is from from Pope Benedict This from a long interview he gave in a book which is called God in the world Although the Jews have lived 2,000 years in exile. Their religion has not just evaporated This is a phenomenon still without parallel in the history of mankind It is obvious that The development of the world as a whole has some mysterious connection with the development of the Jewish people The way that this tiny people who no longer have any country no longer any independent existence But led their life scattered throughout the world kept their own identity the way the Jews are still Jews and still a people Even during the 2000 years when they had no country is an absolute riddle this phenomenon in itself shows us that there’s something More than mere historical chance at work the great powers of that period have all disappeared ancient Egypt and Babylon and Assyria No longer exist Israel remains. This shows us something of the mystery of God So what Pope Benedict is saying is that something else that shows us that Jews and Judaism? Still have a mysterious role to play in salvation history is the fact of their continued existence which is without parallel in the history of mankind Now and there’s a third Aspect which is a history which shows us something of the role that Judaism still has to play in salvation history and What I will focus on in the history of the Jews of the last 2,000 years is in fact the phenomena of anti-semitism because It’s clear that most ethnic groups have been hated by some other people at some point in time somewhere in the world but they’re not a lot of examples of an ethnic group that has been hated by everyone in every place in the world at every point in time like the Jews and I think it’s actually quite evident that The continual animosity towards the Jews reflecting anti-semitism is in itself a mysterious Indication of their continuing role in salvation history and is in fact a reflection of a diabolical hatred of the Jews I will defend that statement as I go along now the most visible manifestation Of anti-semitism over the last 2,000 years is what the hatter took place essentially in our generation or in the generation just preceding us which is the Holocaust in which in in in fact Where was the most civilized country in the world in Germany at the time you can think of you know? Gerda and Hesse and Beethoven and and Conte and I mean this this was not a backward primitive culture it was the the height of Western civilization developed this single-minded focus on freeing the world from the taint of Jewish blood by their eradication that is pretty mysterious and when you look into The forces and the motivation that led to the desire to exterminate the Jews in the Third Reich You see three streams have flowed together three streams, which are directly traceable to the diabolical Will three streams had ever and Lee came? Excuse the expression but directly from the pits of hell and one of the reasons I’ll talk about this is to talk about the role of Jews in Salvation history but the other reason is because we see the re-emergence of those same three streams in our culture today in a very Spooky and suggestive way now those three streams that flowed into the Holocaust and I’ll defend the statement were occultism or Satanism eugenics and Sexual depravity first of all occultism or Satanism no less of an authority than father Gabriela a moth Who is the chief Exorcist of Rome wrote that without a doubt Hitler was personally consecrated to Satan? So Hitler was a sameness and he was na’kal ‘test his his first Springboard to public prominence was an occult society in Munich called the thule society Fool was the Germanic version of the Atlantis myth fool was this mythical continent in the Atlantic Ocean where the people had these? superpowers They could travel through the air they had mental telepathy and so forth this continent sank under the waves of the Atlantic But before it sank The super race fled to Europe and there they interbred Intermingled with inferior races polluted their blood and lost their superpowers but if the purity of their blood could be reestablished through selective breeding they would regain their Superpowers and that is the origin of the Nazi Superman myth that lay behind all of their selective breeding Experiments all of their attempts to rid the world of the impurity of Jewish blood to restore the purity of the Aryan race Which was the race that had fled from Thule and restore their superpowers And this was this was the myth of fool and it was the Thule Society, which was Hitler’s Initial place where he came to to be known and have power and be famous now the head of the Thule Society in the days of Hitler was an occultist named Dietrich Eckart a Dietrich iock hard a Boasted quote I have initiated Hitler into the secret doctrine Opened his centers of vision and given him the means to communicate with the powers. Okay initiation What is a cult initiation? What’s it mean? When he says I vanish had learned to the secret doctrine Opened his centers of vision and given him the means to communicate with the powers Those powers were certainly not the powers of heaven those are the powers of Hell a cult initiation is essentially the introduction of Demonic entities into the person that then do give him an ability to communicate with the spiritual world buts the Fallen spiritual world It’s the demonic spiritual world and this was the head of a Thule society who boasted that he had given this ability to Hitler if if one were to doubt This they could get a copy of mine Kampf and the very last paragraph. Mine Kampf is of course hitler’s memoirs It’s his his master writing work. And the last paragraph of mine. Kampf is hitler’s dedication of the work to his mentor Dietrich Eckart That’s still there in the copies of mine. Come now so so one of the streams that clearly led to this desire to exterminate the Jews was directly occultism or Satanism another stream was eugenics and there was a very spooky and haunting and frightening almost equation between Margaret Sanger and her birth control League, which of course was the direct predecessor to Planned Parenthood and Hitler’s eugenics program hitler was made Chancellor in January 1933 within four months He set up the expert committee on questions of population racial policy That was his eugenics committee which then came up with a scheme Which they implemented to forcibly sterilized carriers of hereditary diseases, which was defined to include feeble-mindedness alcoholism and epilepsy Under which about 400,000 people were forcibly sterilized that developed the program to euthanize disabled children every child upon birth the doctor of the midwife had to check off one of two boxes whether the child should be Killed or not and over a quarter million children were killed with that under that policy and the director of the primary German eugenics Institute under Hitler was a dr Ernst Rudin who was a frequent contributor to Margaret Sanger’s birth control review which is the journal of the Margaret Sanger’s birth control league the Textbook which became the foundational text in the German school system for eugenics under Hitler Was a book called the rising tide of color against white world supremacy It had been written in 1920 by an American by the name of Lothrop Stoddard who was a board member of Margaret Sanger’s birth control league Okay, there was a continual flowing back and forth between expertise research and experts between Margaret Sanger’s birth control League and Hitler’s eugenics program Margaret Sanger herself in her own magazine in the birth control review. I Don’t have a date here wrote a published something She called a plan for peace where she laid out the program of concentration camps and forced Sterilization and I’ll just read a couple of sentences from Margaret Sanger’s own writing her plan for world. Peace to Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring to give genetically undesirable groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization and to apportion farmlands and homesteads for these Segregated persons where they would be taught to work under competent instructors for the period of their entire lives in other words Concentration camps and we now have a postage stamp of Margaret Sanger You know this is this the proud icon of our contemporary culture The third of these streams have flowed into the Holocaust and I’ll go lightly on this is in fact sexual depravity the director of the Berlin search excuse me the Berlin sex Research Institute in the days of Hitler was a Ludwig Lance and he wrote that over 90% of early Nazis were homosexual The the Brownshirts which was Hitler’s Informal army that bullied his way into power was formed as an explicitly Homosexual division of the fry corpse it was formed under in overt homosexual name Gerhardt, rossbach and Under in Hitler stayed was led by another very proud and self-assertive homosexual named Ernst Roehm and Ernst room and The official meeting place of the brown shirts in the early days was a permanently reserved table in the biggest gay Tavern in Munich called the prosperous brought vers flurgle tavern It was such a scandal that the early Nazi leaders were all homosexual that Himmler complained to Hitler quote Does it not constitute a danger to the Nazi movement if it can be said that Nazi leaders are chosen for sexual reasons? in other words for being part of his homosexual Brotherhood There’s there’s there’s tons of evidence about this It’s not it’s not even contested and I’ll just just add two little additional anecdotes one Is that to lead the Hitler Youth you all know the Hitler Youth was? Hitler’s organization for For youth you know for adolescence the lead bring them into Nazism Hitler had released from prison a convicted Petrus Baldur von Schirach Baldur von Schirach to be the head of the Hitler Youth When I discovered this stuff and I kind of excitedly mentioned it to my father He looked at me kind of funny and he said what’s the big deal? we all knew that in other words in the 30s in Germany everybody knew about the More than the homosexual element in the Nazi movement, but actually almost like a homosexual foundation of the Nazi movement the Munich papers were full of warnings to parents don’t let your sons be You know homosexual II initiated in the Hitler Youth and so forth so I’m telling this and now I’m getting off this because it’s kind of obvious a horribly dark, but I’m talking about this for two reasons One is because it really illustrates that the desire to exterminate the Jews was not a human origin but it was a direct expression of a basically diabolical will with the devil using his normal tools for gaining control over people and it is not very heartening to find the same Currents in society that led to this in the days of Hitler emerging as virtues and things in our society today So I will just go on but I’ll say so that begs the question, you know If the Jews no longer had a role to play in Salvation history Why was it like the devil’s number one agenda? To rid the world of Jews to exterminate all of the Jews and I think a very reasonable Hypothesis for the answer is that the devil also knows that there can’t be a second coming until there’s a conversion of the Jews so maybe the thinking was that if they’re no Jews that can’t be a second coming and Certainly, there’s no conversion of the Jews that can’t be a second coming and the Holocaust failed in exterminating all of the Jews But it did a darn good job Of for stalling the conversion of the Jews and being a huge impediment to the conversion of the Jews so my argument is basically that it’s very reasonable to think that the diabolical interest in the Holocaust was precisely to stop the conversion of the Jews and to if you excuse the expression abort the Second Coming, so let me Let me go back to what I promised I would talk about when when I began this segment Which is the mystery of the Jews a failure to recognize Christ when he came because it really ties all of this together That sounds like a rather unbelievable statement right now But I’ll ask you in five 10 minutes whether whether I succeeded or not now most of what we know about the role of the Jews in salvation history in between the first and second coming of Christ in Scripture or from Scripture comes from Romans chapter 11 Paul’s letter to the Romans chapter 11 where Paul Really does a beautiful job of laying out the mystery of the interplay between Jew and Gentile in between the first and the second coming so I want to Kind of summarize this evening’s talk and by the way Tonight’s the only dark talk tomorrow gets very happy again like last night and the beautiful extraordinary Graces of God in what he gave us in the Catholic Church has illustrated by the conversion of the Jews and so forth So don’t despair it’s not going to get worse and worse It’s like an Oreo cookie, you know, there’s this is just the middle part of the Oreo cookie But I think it’s really necessary if months to kind of penetrate into the the mystery of the role of Judas in Salvation history So let me close with reading from Romans chapter 11 Let me actually interrupt myself now that I’m thinking of it Because I got carried away and I always forget to say this This is really an interruption. But first of all, I mean if the stuff is interesting to you obviously have my books Which I have here and also for sale in normal bookstores and Amazon and stuff I have a website called salvation is from the Jews calm. I Have a weekly radio show on Radio Maria, which is also called salvation is from the Jews, which is every Saturday afternoon From 1 to 2. It would be here and you can there’s no broadcast station here They have about 15 broadcast stations throughout the US but not one in this area But it’s over ice on the internet and most weeks. I have a live interview with another Jew who has entered the Catholic Church so it’s a fun show and I’m On and off. I’m on EWTN and it just so happens that in about a month. I’m on EWTN again the week from January 27th to 31st so the last week of January. I’m on every day from 9 to 9:30 on a show called women of grace. It’s a show with John at Ben kovitch so the title of that week’s show is Its Jewish roots Christian fruits. So at least she didn’t make me a Jewish fruit. But anyway So it’s a discussion of essentially the the continuation of Judaism into the into the Catholicism I always forget to mention that so I figured to mention all of that while I Remembered so now back to Romans 11 Paul talking I asked then has God rejected his people by no means I myself AM an Israelite a descendant of the tribe of Benjamin God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew What then Israel failed to obtain what it sought the elect obtained it But the rest were hardened as it is written. God gave them a spirit of stupor eyes That should not see in ears. That should not hear down to this very day Let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see. Okay. So Paul is introducing. Well, two things here First of all that flat statement that God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew So even though the Jews rejected God in their rejection of Jesus. God did not reciprocate and reject the Jews because the Jews had rejected him but then Paul goes on to say something very Mysterious the Jews rejection of Jesus was not entirely their own fault it was not entirely due to their stubbornness and hard-heartedness, but as as Paul says God gave them a spirit of stupor. I said should not see in here That should not hear down to this very day Let their eyes be darkened for they cannot see so somehow mysteriously God cast a veil over the eyes of the Jews so that they would not in in large numbers recognize Christ when he came Then Paul goes on to talk about why God did this So I asked then have they stumbled so as to fall by no means But through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles now if their trespass means riches for the world and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles How much more will their full inclusion mean for their rejection means the reconciliation of the world? What will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? Okay, something very mysterious here what’s he’s talking about through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles their Trespass means riches for the world their failure means riches for the Gentiles their rejection means the reconciliation of the world What on earth is he talking about? First of all, let me just say Gentile simply means non Jew That’s all it means anybody who isn’t a Jew is a Gentile. That’s it That’s all that he means when he uses the word Gentile So what this mean that through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles I think you see what he’s talking about If you look in the book of Acts chapter 15, you see the story of the very first church council the Council of Jerusalem Which was held in about fifty ad all of the Apostles had to come back from everywhere They were in the world and gather again in Jerusalem to resolve the first Theological crisis in the church the burning issue that threatened to undermine The early church and what was at burning theological issue? The question was are we allowed to let Gentiles into the church or is the church only for Jews? Okay, how far from that have we come today? Where the question is is the church for Jews? The question was is the church for Gentiles are Gentiles allowed to be members of the church Or do they first have to become Jews before they qualify for membership in the church Now we would know how wrong this was. Of course And if sure of course the Apostles realized was wrong and the ruling was that Gentiles are welcome to enter the church without becoming Jews first But we can see where this mistake came from right because Jesus was a Jew All of the Apostles were Jews, all of the early disciples were Jews when Jesus sent out his disciples He didn’t say, you know, go nowhere among the Jews but alone only to the towns of the Gentiles He said the opposite he goes said go to no towns of the Samaritans and no town of the Gentiles But go only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel on Pentecost Sunday when when a Saint Peter preached to the crowds and 3002 the church that afternoon those were three thousand Jews, right? They were gathered in Jerusalem for the Jewish feast, you know The the church emerged very visibly out of Judaism From the Jewish Messiah from Jesus being preached by Jews to Jews how natural to see it as a sect of Judaism and to raise the question is This part of Judaism is is only for Jews or is is also for Gentiles that mistake was quickly eliminated by the very fact that the Jews refused to enter the church and the people who were entering the church were all Gentiles so pretty quickly it became apparent that the church was every bit as much for Gentiles as it was for Jews But how much more of a problem with us have been if those five million Jews in the area around? Palestine at the time of Jesus had all entered the church. It would have been much more difficult to see Christianity in the church as meant for the whole world and is not something which at least Was meant first and foremost for the Jews and that the Gentiles could be at best second-class Citizens and it would have been a danger for the Gentiles and it certainly would have been a danger for the Jews who would have Thought we own the church. And what are they doing here that whole danger was eliminated by the Jews rejection of Christ. I Think this is what Paul means when he says when he said through their trespass Salvation has come to the Gentiles their trespass meant riches for the world their failure man riches for the Gentiles their rejection meant the reconciliation of the world the Jews rejection of Christ meant the reconciliation of the Gentile world the reconciliation of all of mankind with God through Christianity Which required the Jews rejection of Christ that make sense. It’s really only logical Now and then Paul goes on with his image of the olive tree which is a central image of the interplay the interaction between Jew and Gentile in the church in between the first and second coming he Compares salvation to this olive tree, which was planted its roots are in Judaism The olive tree was originally the tree of Judaism and then I’ll go into his words and in Romans 11 so he’s talking about the olive tree of salvation and he says but if some of the branches of this cultivated olive tree were broken off and You a wild olive chute were grafted in their place to share the richness of the olive tree Do not boast over the branches If you do boast remember, it is not you that supports the root, but the root that supports you you will say Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in that is true, but do not become proud but stand in awe for God For Offenders For even the others if they do not persist in their unbelief will be grafted In for God has the power to graft them in again for if you have been caught from others by nature a wild olive tree and grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated Olive tree how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree? So you see the whole story here, right? The tree of salvation is has cultivated olive tree, which was originally Judaism and the Jews some of those original cultivated olive branches were broken off. That’s two Jews who rejected Jesus In order to make room to Grafton while olive branches Those are Gentiles in the church If you’re one of those grafted in wild olive branches don’t boast over the broken off original cultivated olive branches because first of all they were only broken off to make room for you and remember God Grafted you into the tree how much more easy how much easier of will it be for him to graft them back into the tree because they were originally a part of it And when he does how much betters fitted to the tree, will they be because they were an original part of it? Don’t shoot me. I’m not saying this is st. Paul okay as Saint Paul said how much more well for if you have been caught from what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated Olive tree how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree? Okay so that’s this interplay between Jew and Gentile in the church between the first and second coming the image being that Near the time of the second coming when the full number of the Gentiles has come in It’ll be time to graft back in the original olive branches That’s the conversion of the Jews that has to precede the second coming and then the church comprised of Jew and Gentile Will be ready for the second coming So let me go on with the end of Romans 11 Which talks more about why God arranged salvation history this way and also talks about the timeline for the second coming So this is now Romans 11 chap verse 25 lest you be wise in your own conceits I want you to understand this mystery brethren a hardening has come up part of Israel until the full number of the Gentiles come in and so all Israel will be saved as Regards the gospel. There are enemies of God, but for your sake but as regards election They are beloved for the sake of their forefathers for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable Just as you were once disobedient to God, but have now received mercy because of their disobedience So they have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you. They also may receive mercy for God has consigned all men to disobedience that he may have mercy upon all okay, so you see why God did this this way at the time of the first coming the Gentiles were as Paul says disobedient to God in other words they were out of relationship with God so When they were invited into the church when they entered the church It was obvious to everyone that it was a sovereign act of the mercy of God And it’s nothing that they did to deserve it But the Jews were in relationship with God so if they had started out in the church They wouldn’t have seen it as a sovereign act of the mercy of God. They would have said to themselves We deserve this we were so good. We deserve this all along. You see that in the New Testament, right? That’s what the Jews are continually doing saying, you know, we we deserve to own God because we’re so good The Jews had also passed through a period of disobedience so that when they enter the church it’s evident to them also that is a sovereign act of the mercy of God and nothing that they could have done or any of us could ever have Done to deserve the gift that we have of salvation, right? It’s just obvious. Really as Paul says God has consigned all men to disobedience that he may have mercy upon all so that is you know in 57 minutes the story of Judaism in Salvation history Oh, let me actually just say what I said, I promise to say about the timeline because there’s a very interesting Phrase here. It might have gone by you Lest you be wise in your own conceits. I wanted you to understand this mystery brethren a hardening has come upon part of Israel until The full number of the Gentiles come in and then all Israel will be saved What is this business about the full number of the Gentiles coming in? Well, we know more about the the Gentiles coming in from the words of Jesus himself in Luke 21 He prophesized over Jerusalem shortly before the crucifixion and he says quote The Jews will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive Among all nations and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled And there will be signs and Sun and Moon and stars and upon the earth distress of nations in perplexity At the roaring of the sea and the waves men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world For the powers of the heavens will be shaken and then they will see the Son of man Coming in a cloud with power and great glory. So you see that pretty much the same phrase The the full number of the Gentiles having come in the times of the Gentiles having been fulfilled Jesus is laying out a timeline here. The Jews will follow by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations Literally fulfilled in 70 AD the Romans conquered Jerusalem after the Jews had revolted they led the Jews away into slavery They the Jews were but captive among all nations Literally Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles literally fulfilled from then on continually for almost 2,000 years Jerusalem was trodden down by the Gentiles in other words held in Gentile hands until 1967 ad when for the first time in almost two thousand years the Old City of Jerusalem returned to Jewish hands Jesus calls this times of the Gentiles being fulfilled and then he immediately goes into a description of the second coming, right? signs and Sun and Moon and stars a Man fainting with fear and foreboding of what is coming on the world the powers of the heavens being shaken and then they will see The Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory there will be what’s called the great apostasy So the great apostasy a widespread falling away from the faith. That’s another sign to perceive the second coming I don’t think it’s unreasonable to see all of this and to see it as perhaps a suggestion That we may be near that time in Salvation history Which has been described as the times as Gentiles being fulfilled the full number of Gentiles coming in having come in a widespread Falling away from the faith which is known as the great apostasy Another sign that has to precede the second coming by the way according to the catechize the council of trent is the appearance of the Antichrist and I’m not supposed to become too political so I won’t talk too much about I Won’t hypothesize about possible Antichrist who might have appeared I’ll leave that to your imagination or to father to talk about but anyway It’s not unreasonable to think that this is a particular reason why it’s about time to care about the conversion of Jews to pray for the conversion of the Jews and To make ready for I hope in our lifetime I’m not saying that’s true, but I certainly hope in our lifetime the second coming So with that kind of a flyby of salvation history, let me close with another another prayer for the conversion of the Jews Yah, another pray for the conversion of the Jews This is on the back of another prayer card, which I also have for three out of my table It’s the one with this on the front. It’s also a hundred percent Kosher Catholic pray for the conversion of the Jews because it’s straight from the Catholic breviary is from the Catholic Grevy Airi for a prayer for the week of Christian unity in January day six of Prayer for the week of Christian unity is prayer for the conversion of the Jews It’s dedicated to praying for the conversion of Jews. And this is the prayer from the breviary Granted this is the breviary That preceded vatican ii so I’m not sure the form this prayer takes in the new version. But anyway, this is the The prayer from the Rebbe area for the week for Christian unity again, I’ll read it as a prayer and invite you if you wish to asylum we pray along and to take a copy if you Wish Oh God who manifests your mercy and compassion towards all peoples have mercy upon the Jewish race From the outset your chosen people you selected them alone out of all the nations of the world To be the custodians of your sacred teachings from them you raised up prophets and patriarchs to announce the coming of the Redeemer You will that your only Son Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior should be a Jew according to the flesh Born of a Jewish maiden in the land of promise Listen to the prayers we offer you today for the conversion of the Jewish people Grant that they may come safely to a knowledge and love of our Lord Jesus Christ the Messiah Foretold by their prophets and that they may walk with us in the way of salvation amen, amen and thank you and Thank you very much And I’m happy to again take any questions for 10 or 15 minutes and then to peddle books and DVDs afterwards. Yeah The question is how do I see Islam fitting into salvation history first of all at the risk of sounding like trying to sell One of my DVDs actually has a talk on it on the role of Islam in salvation history available tonight. Only for only $12. No But basically First of all, what I’m going to say has to do with the religion of Islam it doesn’t have to do with Muslims okay, because if I’m right then Muslims are the victims of a false religion They’re not. You know, we’re the number one victims of Islam They are immortal human souls that God created to live for all eternity in bliss with him in heaven Just like everyone else is and if they’re under the influence of a false religion You know, they’re the primary victims of it. So it’s in no way a condemnation of Muslims at all but it is a Consideration of Islam as a religion now Islam is based on Revelation right just like Christianity just like Judaism It is supposed to be it’s based on the divine revelation. The story is that Muhammad who was a unschooled Literally illiterate he didn’t know how to read or write Kind of gofer for caravans who ended up marrying the woman who owned the caravans and and you know leading the caravans Anyway at one point he went into a cave and the angel Gabriel appeared to him and gave him the revelation Which later became written down by his disciples as the Quran in this revelation? you know God introduces himself obviously as Allah tells Muhammad a lot of stuff a lot of stuff about Judaism a lot about Christianity a lot about Jesus a lot about what God wants for man a lot about how man should behave and so forth Everywhere, you look in the revelation that the angel Gabriel was supposed to give have given to Muhammad you see what seems to me to be a very direct diabolical counterfeit aping mimicry of Christianity as it would be if it was the devil who’s playing the role of God For instance in in Christianity. You have the Great Commission go out and make disciples of all nations in Islam You have the Great Commission go out and make the entire world submit to the law of Islam Through conversion if they choose to convert, but otherwise through the sword and if they refuse to they refuse to go along kill them It’s the same Great Commission make everybody a follower of me But God wants our love and free will and the devil couldn’t care less about that He just wants power over us and control in our submission in Islam It is taught that the idea that God loves us or wants our love is horrible sacrilege that God should so lower himself to care about whether we love him and That he should god forbid love us is a terrible sacrilege Again the devil doesn’t care anything about love. All he cares about is submission even marriage marriage and Christianity is elevated to be a picture of Man’s fidelity to God and God’s love for mankind Based entirely on freewill and and love there is no role of freewill in Islam at all For instance a conversion in Islam if you recite the magic formula, which has to do I’m not going to say it word for word because then I would be under a death sentence for being an Apostate from Islam because if I said the formula word-for-word I would be as much a Muslim as any Born devout Muslim because all you have to do is say that phrase and you are entirely Muslim even if a sword is being held over your neck and your being friend with death if you don’t say that phrase that phrase has To do with all of being the only God and Muhammad being a true prophet Again, God has infinite respect for our free will the devil has no respect at all for a free will heaven the picture of heaven The Christian heaven is of course the bliss of heaven comes from our intimacy with God and our love and our love from God and our experience if God’s love and our love of each other and the the Content of heaven in Islam excuse the expression is you know, it’s Hugh Hefner’s or Ted Turner’s picture of heaven Right, the Bliss of heaven comes from from tremendous sexual license and indulgence 72 Virgins and 28 beardless boys by the way, but that’s another story Really so, you know, it seems to me that everywhere you look in Islam what you see is the devil’s caricature of Christianity I think Islam has a tremendous role to play in salvation history Which is what we’re seeing now because I very literally think it’s the religion of the Antichrist and when you see the story of Armageddon in the you know in the Bible in the prophecy to proceed the second coming of the forces of the Antichrist taking up arms Trying to defeat Christianity and the final battle being resolved actually by Christ coming again in glory I think that army of the Antichrist is actually going to be Islam’s attempt to eradicate Christianity by force So that’s it in a nutshell. I didn’t want I hope I didn’t offend anybody but that’s you know, just by the way, I’ve talked about this with a lot of people including legitimate islam scholars Catholic muslim scholars, by the way, including by the way for instance father Mitch Pacwa But others too and they all agree, although they usually say I wouldn’t say in public The Moslems claim to come from line of Ishmael That is that’s that is true. That is their claim. I Don’t know I don’t know to what extent and I actually frankly doubt that there was any practical basis for that claim What happened was? Muhammad when he received this revelation, you know He leaves the cave. He tries to get a following he tries to get followers He tries to basically build up his religion and they take over the whole world by the way by the force And the people around him at the time there were three groups of people around him. They were pagans There were Jews and there were Christians because us Who there were in that part of the world at that time? There were tribes and a tribe would be a pagan tribe. It would be a Jewish tribe It would be a Christian tried and he tried to sell his new religion to all three groups and to the pagans He basically said let me tell you about the real pagan worship because what I’m giving you isn’t a change in religion I’m giving you the true version of your religion he said the same thing to the Jews that he was giving them the true Judaism and the same thing to the Christians that I’m giving you the true form of Christianity and that’s why there are things in the Koran that echo things in Christianity and echo things in Judaism and echo things in paganism the things that echo paganism the Koran he took out when he pretty soon started selling just to Jews and Christians and not to pagans and the Fact that he was actually supporting polytheism became an embarrassment So he had to erase those verses from the Koran which became known as the Satanic Verses. You’ve heard that expression the Satanic Verses Because he then later said by the way Those weren’t really the angel Gabriel who gave me those verses that was a that was a demonic Imitation of Gabriel who gave me those verses and they became known as satanic verses and were removed But the verses have said this is really the real Judaism were left in and this is really the real Christianity were left in and so the way he’d co-opted Judaism was to say that the Jews perverted the story in the Old Testament It wasn’t Isaac who was the child of promise it was Ishmael Who is the Sancho of the promise which was supposed to be the great? You know seed the great elect people and it’s them the Muslims who are the seed of Ishmael so that was a way for them to Embed themselves in the promise given to Abraham. That’s where I think that kind of line comes from But it’s not authoritative yes Actually, we are close to that your 6000 on the Jewish calendar. I think we’re like 57 60 something somewhere around there the Jewish calendar starts with creation it’s It actually I think it’s an open question whether start to the first day of creation or the sixth day of creation I’m not joking. I actually think that’s a theological issue. But in any case it begins with creation It’s the dating of the Jewish calendar is pretty close to the dating You would get in the Old Testament if you just added up life times and got back to Adam and Eve and So That’s I guess that’s the question. So the Jewish calendar Abraham came around the year 2000 and Jesus came around the year 4000. It’s very interesting to me that in the Talmud which is the Jewish oral tradition it says It says that the world is going to exist for 6,000 years 2,000 years between the creation of the world and the giving of the law 2,000 years between the giving of the law and the coming of the Messiah and 2,000 years between the coming of the Messiah and the end of the world. So according to Jewish theology We’re very close to the second coming It really was 2,000 years between the creation of the world and the start of Judaism 2,000 years between the start of Judaism and the coming the Messiah who is Jesus and 2,000 years, of course between the coming of Jesus and where we are now, so it’s interesting to me that according to Jewish prophecy We should be right around the time of the second coming That’s by the way one of the reasons if you read the oh the New Testament It says somewhere that when John the Baptist emerged, you know wins his ministry Everyone was going around saying is he the Messiah? is he the Messiah because the Jews were an expectation that this was the time when the Messiah was supposed to be appearing and So that’s one of the sources of that the other source of that expectation is actually in the Book of Daniel I think it’s chapter 9 but there’s a very beautiful prophecy in there that dates the coming of the Messiah It goes through the calendar dating when the Messiah will come from when the temple was rebuilt in Jerusalem And if you figure out those numbers, it comes out to almost exactly I think I think it is within it’s basically exactly when Jesus came that they The chronology in the prophecy and Daniel dates the day that the Messiah is going to come So that’s why the Jews were an expectation for the coming of Messiah at the time of Jesus Really Judaism makes so much more sense in the light of Christianity Anyway, I’m selling. You know, I’m preaching to the choir here buddy, right? Yeah, I Don’t have a good take on them. I have a take obviously Pentecost is easy and and Shavuos and Pentecost is very easy Passover and Easter is very easy. Even Hanukkah and Christmas is pretty easy I Will just say as a way of sidestepping your question this year. Do you know what day on the catholic calendar? Yom kippur came on on No on the Feast of the exaltation of the cross So Yom Kippur is the one day when the high priest would offer sacrifice for the remission of sins of the Jewish nation So one day he would enter the Holy of Holies So one day when he would consummate the ultimate sacrifice and it fell on the Feast of the exaltation of the Cross that of course commemorated You know the the true Yom Kippur the true taking away the sins of not only the entire Jewish nation But of all of humanity, so I thought that was a very nice coincidence But of course that doesn’t happen every year, but that’s slow. We’re just a way to sidestep your question I don’t really have a good a good take on it Yes There they are such opposites a picture of God, I mean I Do have those quotes here? I don’t have those quotes here I don’t think but the Quran is full of things Like whoever says God had a son has invented a terrible blasphemy. God has no son The Quran says that Jesus never died on the cross It says explicitly it says the the Jews thought he died on the cross but really it was a sham I mean how you reckon can reconcile a God who simply wants our submission and that is a terrible blasphemy to Say that he cares about us loving him You know with with Jesus who died on the cross because he cared about nothing but us loving him, you know Really? Good luck. This is so we’re living in such an age of nonsense You know anyway that’s my take on it, but I’m sorry I I don’t want to play the role of you know, kind of negative prophet But I just I just can’t make any heads or tails sense out of it except that is totally different ISM It’s just making garbage of all religion Jesus will come back to be our Ponder’s. Well, if Jesus were Muslim he would be coming back to punish us yeah, by the way, another Islamic counterfeit of Christian doctrine that I find very interesting is I’ve been talking all evening about how Catholic doctrine says it can’t be the Second Coming won’t happen until there’s a conversion of the Jews According to Islam the day of resurrection can’t happen until all the Jews were killed Okay, and that’s there explicitly and the the the where was his name in at a job The Leader of Iran made allusion to that The reason why he wanted to exterminate Israel in the Jews was to bring about the day of resurrection essentially the Muslim version of the second coming the day of resurrection can’t happen until all the Jews are Exterminated and he wanted to bring it about which is why they have to exterminate all the Jews. So again, you see this diabolical Mirror image, you know aping of christian doctrine Anyway, yes That’s a really good question what’s my take on the Thousand Year reign of peace and the answer is I am clueless. I’m absolutely clueless There isn’t any true dog Catholic dogma there’s very little dogma on that and a very wide range of theological opinions are acceptable under the rules of dogma Basically anything that doesn’t contradict dogma is acceptable and there’s so little dog monit dad You can’t the Raptor is not acceptable, but pretty much everything but the rapture including that Jesus will return and there’ll be an era of peace on earth or That it’s kind of all symbolic and when Jesus returns, that’ll be the final judgment The full range of opinions is acceptable and I can make heads or tails out of it And I’m sure your father will be able to give you the definitive answer when he at the end of the evening so Guys it’s 20 past. I’ll take one more question and then ask father to close with a prayer if there is one more question Yeah I’ll tell you a story which is use there’s something called Anti missionaries in Judaism an anti missionary is essentially a Jewish apologist who tries to talk Jews who think Christianity is true out of thinking to Christianity is true So like my father wanted me to see an anti missionary in other words when I became a believer in Jesus It’s like well You have to talk to a rabbi who can You know explain how Jesus couldn’t have been the Messiah and that’s when the anti missionary is and the standard anti missionary Response is the following to tell the I know one who tells the story tell us the story this takes place in In Eastern Europe, you know 200 years ago, you know where the Jews all lived You know in Poland and the Ukraine and stuff in these ghettos So this these this guy is walking through the woods and he comes across a tree with a bull’s-eye painted on it and an arrow shot right in the middle of the bullseye and he says to himself boy son this some guy around here who’s a pretty good archer and He walks a little further through the woods and he comes across another tree another bullseye Another target with an arrow straight in the bull’s eye and he says wow, this guy really hits it He’s really good Comes across another tree and another tree and so forth and then after about five or six of these trees he comes across a guy Walking with a bow and an arrow and you know quiver of arrows and he says to him, you know Are you the guy who shot? All those arrows into the trees and the guy says yes, and he says wow You’re a really good shot and he says good shot. What do you mean? I shoot an arrow into a tree and I paint a bull’s-eye around it And I don’t know if you see this point of the story But basically what the Jewish and how missionaries saying is, of course Jesus fulfilled all of the prophecies in the Old Testament This is all fiction. It was all made up If you’re going to make up a story to make Jews think that he’s the Messiah, of course You’re going to make up the story to fit the prophecies so that’s kind of the stand or Jewish answer and It’s not a bad one as far as it goes But the counter answer that is very interesting that all of these guys who made up the stories Chose to be martyred in these incredible the painful ways rather than admit that they made up a story That’s pretty inexplicable So it doesn’t make it to the second stage, but it does a good job of producing roadblock at the first stage that’s what a horrible note to end on but Thank you very much. This has been a lot of fun and I will be back tomorrow night and I’ll ask father to close with a prayer again In the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit amen We thank you Lord for the gift of salvation We thank you for this opportunity to learn more of the truth and how you used? Your Jewish people to bring salvation to us Gentiles we thank you for the gift of Jesus the Eucharist the sacraments and your Blessed Mother as We ask her to intercede for us as we say together hail Mary full of grace. The Lord is with thee Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen. You know mighty God bless you the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen Are you everything ready for this time? So you can yes, all right Okay, he wants you to stop by his tale. Let’s give Roy a big hand

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